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cowboymatt329: Okay, well, it seems we all know each other, so let us open in prayer...
cowboymatt329: Anyone want to pray today?
crosskritters: I volunteer mattie
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cowboymatt329: Okey dokey...we have someone being volunteered...Mattie, would you like to open us in prayer?
crosskritters: I think he left
crosskritters: he doesn't like us
cowboymatt329: Okay, well, I will open up in prayer then...
cowboymatt329: Dear Lord,
cowboymatt329: I thank you for allowing us to gather here once again for Bible Study. I pray You would bless the study and that we would all learn what you want us to learn.
cowboymatt329: In Christ's name,
cowboymatt329: Amen
crosskritters: amen
tiggerish44: AMEN!
PHC4Christ: Amen
HDRgov: amen
WackyWabbit25: amen
cowboymatt329: Okey dokey, well, 1 Corinthians 1. And first off, does anyone have anything that they particularly liked or wanted to discuss out of this chapter?
cowboymatt329: anyone?
PHC4Christ: Well, I like verses 10-17
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PHC4Christ: shows how important it is for Christians to get along, but also shows how guilty we are of divisions in churches (and elsewhere)
crosskritters: yes
cowboymatt329: yeah, verses 10-17 are very good....they are something that many churches need to here. Probably something we all need to hear..and apply.
crosskritters: ironicly, most christians know this passage but almost no one does it
PHC4Christ: yeah, sadly
cowboymatt329: Very true, the same can be said for many passages.
cowboymatt329: Often, I think we "hear" and do not do.
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PHC4Christ: one of the things I thought when I saw it...
PHC4Christ: instead of "I am of Paul, Apollos, Cephas, etc."....
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PHC4Christ: "I am of Calvin, Luther, Wesley..."
crosskritters: yeah
crosskritters: totally
cowboymatt329: definetly...
PHC4Christ: thus where all our divisions are - and where the church denominations come from
crosskritters: but how are we going to rectify this problem
PHC4Christ: well...
crosskritters: well?
PHC4Christ: granted that pentecostal christians and presbyterians don't worship the same way...
PHC4Christ: but every Christian should agree on salvation
crosskritters: but no one even agrees on that
PHC4Christ: what do you mean?
crosskritters: some pray jesus into their hearts, some baptize for salvation, some say that you can't be saved unless you're preselected and therefore conversion is very different
crosskritters: I think that whatevery your possition on that issue, you wouldn't tollerate others
PHC4Christ: I mean the basic message - I am a sinner, I'm going to hell, Jesus saved me, I need to repent and live anew, etc.
cowboymatt329: right...
cowboymatt329: As much as I enjoy theology, I think we use it so much we lose track of the point of Christianity.
PHC4Christ: exactly
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PHC4Christ: I also think that some issues people can agree to disagree on - unless it is blasphemous
crosskritters: what qualifies as blasphemous?
PHC4Christ: well, for instance, I know a "church" that allows homosexual pastors.............
PHC4Christ: that will NOT be tolerated
cowboymatt329: right
crosskritters: why should that not be tolerated and other things should? (for the sake of arguement)
crosskritters: because that is a practical issue?
PHC4Christ: can you give me an example of something that can / should be tolerated?
crosskritters: you said that some things people can agree to disagree on
PHC4Christ: yes...
PHC4Christ: I guess it would depend what kinds of issues and how strong the leadership is in the church
crosskritters: what do you mean?
PHC4Christ: sadly, sometimes leadership can be so riddled with disagreements, they can't handle other things, often more important - thus causing splits
crosskritters: which is a bad thign
PHC4Christ: yeah
crosskritters: how do we prevent that
crosskritters: ok.....Jon (acidrain, I hope you don't mind
crosskritters: me putting you on the spot
PHC4Christ: well....don't bicker unnecessarily
crosskritters: but you travel 45 min to get to church
crosskritters: why is that?
AcidRainLiTE: well, it is not because i want to go to a church that fits my beliefs exactly
AcidRainLiTE: in all honesty, I attended that chruch because that is where my parents went on sunday
AcidRainLiTE: so, my parents are my ride to church
crosskritters: so, why did they go to that church?
AcidRainLiTE: i think because they met there
crosskritters: ok, bad example
AcidRainLiTE: im sorry that that didnt really add anything to this discussion
crosskritters: but there are people who travel far and wide
crosskritters: to got to chruch
PHC4Christ: what are you getting at? I used to travel an hour to church
crosskritters: there are closer churches
PHC4Christ: yes, but some aren't churches, thus why we don't attend :-)
crosskritters: aha!
PHC4Christ: they have serious issues - don't believe God's word is the Bible to name one thing
crosskritters: I would agree that those are serious issues
crosskritters: but what one calls a serious issure is reletive
PHC4Christ: true, but I guess that can be said of anything
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Mz1Squarepants: does any1 think its weird, that when u walk down the street, you find 2 cuhrches on the same block
PHC4Christ: indeed - try 4 or 5
Mz1Squarepants: ya thats interesting eh
PHC4Christ: methodist, reformed, catholic, episcopalian, lutheran.... *covers eyes*
crosskritters: the trouble arises that a lot of times (not always) devision comes when one group of people stops following the word of God (in one respect or many) and the other group has the choice to split or stay with the false doctrine
crosskritters: that's the real issue
PHC4Christ: true
cowboymatt329: yeah...
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crosskritters: so...how can we deal with this?
PHC4Christ: somehow I thought of PHC when you said that
PHC4Christ: they stand up for the truth while other "Christian" colleges are beginning to turn away
crosskritters: welll, that's kinda a different issue
crosskritters: carry on with the topic at hand
Mz1Squarepants: i think there will always be differences although its not right i mean...
Mz1Squarepants: some people might find that girls wearing jeans is unchristlike and others wont
Mz1Squarepants: some dont agree with wearing jewlery and others do
crosskritters: perfect example!
PHC4Christ: true, but I think that's something between you and God (and perhaps your parents if you are that age) unless it causes a stumbling block
crosskritters: it says in the Bible not to adorn yourself with silver and gold
crosskritters: now imagine there was a family that took this verse litterally
PHC4Christ: ....but don't stop there.... there's more :-)
crosskritters: and they didn't want their daughter to grow up in a church where women wore jewelery to church
crosskritters: ...so they started a new movement of purity
crosskritters: now that probably sounds petty
crosskritters: most of us would agree that that's not a major issue
Mz1Squarepants: exactly
crosskritters: but it IS in the Bible
Mz1Squarepants: your beauty should not come from outward adornment such as braided hair and wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes
Mz1Squarepants: but i dont think peter ment that we were to dress in rags and not comb out hair
Mz1Squarepants: u kno
PHC4Christ: exactly
crosskritters: but one COULD read it that way
PHC4Christ: they shouldn't
cowboymatt329: right...
Mz1Squarepants: thats what i dont understand, how can one twist it up to mean that
Mz1Squarepants: its like they are trying to "analyze" the word into what they want it to sound like
crosskritters: no, I'm not talking about that
cowboymatt329: And I think most of the problems we have are mis-interpretations...
PHC4Christ: amen
PHC4Christ: we are not God - we did not write the Bible

PHC4Christ: but out of the hardness of our hearts we twist things to make them look nice for us
cowboymatt329: right
PHC4Christ: Matthew 5:29
cowboymatt329: Okay, anymore on verses 10-17?
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cowboymatt329: Lets take down some prayer requests...
cowboymatt329: anyone?
tiggerish44: please pray for are trip two florida
cowboymatt329: Okay...
cowboymatt329: I will be in a horse competition on Monday, so please pray for that...
crosskritters: that sounds like fun
cowboymatt329: should be fun...anyone else?
crosskritters: regarding our trip to florida:
crosskritters: pray that we'll have a good impact on our grandparents
cowboymatt329: okay
crosskritters: spiritually
cowboymatt329: okey dokey,
crosskritters: oh, and pray for Sam (rohanrider)
crosskritters: he's got a huge load with college and his job
cowboymatt329: okay
cowboymatt329: any others?
cowboymatt329: okay, anyone to close us in prayer?
crosskritters: don't be shy people
cowboymatt329: anyone?
WackyWabbit25: I volunteer Kat
cowboymatt329: Okay...Kat can close us in prayer. :D
crosskritters: Dear Lord, we thank you for this time together
crosskritters: thank you for your word
crosskritters: please continue to speak to us throughout the week
crosskritters: thank you for cowboy matt for leading the study
crosskritters: please bless him in his horse competetion on monday
crosskritters: help those around to see your light through him
crosskritters: be with Sam
crosskritters: help him to find your peace amidst his hectic schedule
crosskritters: and help him to share that peace with others
crosskritters: please be with austin and I
crosskritters: keep us safe on the road
crosskritters: please influence my grandparents through us
crosskritters: please be with all of us as we go from here
crosskritters: give us wisdom to face life's decisions
crosskritters: we ask these things in Jesus' name
crosskritters: amen
PHC4Christ: Amen
WackyWabbit25: amen
cowboymatt329: Amen!